Thursday, March 14, 2013

TOM DIDIER IS RUNNING FOR MAYOR? 2015?

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  • David Christopher Roach dan- i enjoy the discussion of making OUR HOMETOWN A BETTER PLACE. but i must correct you- first Karl rove lost because his original strategy was to appease the TEA PARTY( extreme conservatives)- and tried to buy the election( citizens united/ etc)- and he lost. so he has learned, and is adapting, EXPENSIVE MISTAKE 500-MIL, to 1 BILLION, OR SO.. im suprised he isnt sleeping with the fishes. and the 47% videio tape was the nail in the coffin.. you said" Where some taxes raised? Yes. But most of the turn around was because of cut backs and making the system run more efficient. Besides, even if all of the turn around was because of raising taxes, nobody including you can undo the fact that when she left that position the county government was working off of a huge surplus in the millions of dollars." - so she raised taxes to solve a deficit; and used a balanced approach of tax hikes, and govt spending cuts.. and over taxed us- to get a budget surplus. so she sounds a lot like PRESIDENT OBAMA, OR BILL CLINTON - yet you insist shes a conservative? ???? .. im not slaming Ms Hughes. I have no emotion for nor aginst her. personaly- i think shes kinda hot, has a pleasnt demeanor, and knows local govt finance. its the social issues i cant stomach, and i still insist that was her downfall. ........YOUR QUOTE- " all the bs about Anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-choice and then you trying to link it to the KKK without the white sheets is just simply disgusting."- show me where the KKK, and the TTT has any daylight between their platforms/ agendas. add in the code words " welfare/takers; and self deportation, AND THE GAP NARROWS.. IM NOT IMPLYNG ANY DIRECT RACISM, BUT THINK ABOUT IT........ QUOTE: I sat there to make calls for her right next to me sat a gay man who like you had a serious axe to grind with Mayor Henry and worked his butt off trying to turn this city around.- tommy schrader? fred steinicke? just curious.. ............YOU- "Is she pro-life? Of course she is."- no one is for abortion, but women want the choice/options, without some bunch of crazies telling them what to do, through intimidation, etc.. - and th estated goal of the local RTl to prevent ANYBODY WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH THEM from getting elected, even dog catcher- is abhorrent.. and im sure theres lots of irritations, and such that can be put up by local govt- such as the doctor admitting priv ordinance, which is being sused in othe r statesto shut down clinics. dittor for zoning, planning, building codes elsewhere too. The church being the moral compass is fine, but self appointed vigilante busybodies is nothing but equal to fred phelps, and as abhorrent... YOU- CHARITY CASINOS- my issue is their record of racketeering- cherrymasters, and im not sure state laws allows them to operate 52 weeks a yr, 3 days a week. and esp the aAMERICAL LEGION-dubious record as well- how much of their proceeds go to charity as a percentage; and how much goes to profit the operators, for their own greed? they are bending, if not breaking the laws, and crime is crime.. ...... im not opposed to legal gambling, but illegal is illegal. i cant smoke weed- its the same thing.. MY AXE TO GRIND- s the rotten treatment ive gotten by the local hacks, and they must pay. and besides- if they did what i tell them to do, they might start winning- all im saying is copycat shine, a sure thing?.. YOU- conservatives and the KKK- im not saying centrist mainstream conservatives are KKK- dont be hyperbolic, DAN- im saying these special interest groups ARE veiled racist; bigots, whatever. they assuredly arent christian. where in the new testament in the red words of JC- does it support anything they say or do? Nor am i saying anything negative about you, DAN. as for personal issues- its not personal- its politics. the henrys have never doen anything to me i have seen personally ( not to say...)- and I think the people deserve to see how and who their politicians, and elected officials are behind closed doors- thats why the 47% ROMNEY TAPE WAS SO DEVASTING. the guy who taped it, apparently did it with innocent intent, but then realized he had dynamite in a can, and that it was important to let the American people see how he truly was. thats not negative politics.. thats being intellectually honest. mudslinging is an art, and a science- if you are telling the truth, and its great tabloid news, ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW. look at the SALACIOUS INTEREST IN BILL CLINTONS affairs.. and the cover-ups of other "respected" politicians. They all spout the same partisan rhetoric.. and as for MS Hughes- and my vote- i voted against the TTT party agenda- social agenda- because i personally find it abhorrent, and against the cnstitution, and th eintent of the founding fathers.. again- it was more that, but also- like i said- i thought things were going ok, and why let the inmates take over the asylum- so to say( a little humor here). and as for TAXES- well- TAXES are a price to pay for living in a civilized society- and personally- i dont mind paying taxes, as long as things arent getting neglected. If you, and TOM, and company- can maybe publish blog- and lay it all out in writing for the world to see- and 1- be financially factual; and 2- document the character, etc- of why we ( dont want a scoundrel, or a crook ) in office- RICHARD NIXON COMES TO MIND- or the tabloid facts, then people can read the story, and examine it more closely. but to just say- the sky is falling- we are broke, theres no money, etc- people dont listen. If I was on your side- I would go to 1- all your precinct people; 2- all the neighborhoods 3- business, and Labor people- and make up a questionaire- or survey- market research/ customer service- and use facts, figures numbers, and s oon- to find out what people want, and how much they are willing to pay for it.. the best example i ever saw of this was several years ago- John Stafford- spent considerable time and effort( really earned a bonus)- compiling a service by service compilation of the city budget- showing what each service cost, what it provided, and the city resources that went into it, and the various consequences of eliminating it. as far as im concerned- it would make a brilliant graduate degree course in local govt finance. Pat roller is doing that somewhat.. again- If STEVE SHINE wants to achieve his goal of "global domination" here in the county- well- ANNEXXATION has several advntages- 1- it spreads the shared city ameity/convenicne budget over the greatst number of people( spreading the pain around).. 2- it brings more citizens into representation about their taxation- and able to vote in city affairs- which they pay for through COIT, CEDIT, etc.. a3- annexation spreads the per-capita tax burden arounda wider tax pool- so overall- its less per capta; and inally- say we annexxed ( for the sake of discussion- 50,000 people in unincorporated, developed suburban areas- - the dupont/ county bars, etc- would be subjcet to city codes, and the playing field would be leveld for business. the map would make the city look larger, and the population increase- through annexxation- granted- would make fort wayne/ allen county eleigible for a larger slice of the pot of the money from the FEDS, and INDY- that will be apropriated, and spent anyway- and instead of lets say 250,000 population, wwe could claim on paper 300,000( i have to look up the real numbers_ fort wayne will get more money, and be ranked higher as larger cities- not inconsequential, and has adavantages.. oh- and the HOLY GRAIL OF THE GOP- whomever institutes a unigov / consolidated got structure county wide, in imitation of your KING- RICHARD LUGAR- will be crowned the next king- HELMKE TRIED AND FAILED. the GOP controlled city council cando this. in fact- i would raise taxes to the maximum level- abnd rebuild the surplus, and save the legacy fund- which is turinig into a real tar baby. ever see the movie "the mouse that oared"? the legacy fund is getting to be a millstone- and both sides are greedily circling to spend it on their own special interests, famlies, friends, and croonies. again- why am i hlping you r side- my side can do just fine without me- they said as mcuh.. like right.. ok- look at all those winning officesWINNING1 DUH1 as charlie said. and the city elections arent till 2015- so there slots of time to play; but seriously- i want to be aplayer, and make fort waye a great place for single adults to party, families to work and play, and safe for kids- which arent at all incompatible.. butthe more we all are talking about this, and the sooner TOMMY forms a exploratory com ittee-the sooner things will happen. we already saw it in the cuncil meeting- 3-12- with the harper sniing at didier. all tom has to do is just be himself. an afableniceguy, willing to sail the mellow middle - right centrist, and make sure he doesnt mourdock himself on account of the lunatic fringe. You seem reasonable, Daneil, and i think we can work together on these issues- bi partisan support. I will tone down the tea party bashing- , but i dont beleive social conservatism is inclusive, nor the way to go.. i yied the floor( and great reading your dissertation, too!).
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    • David Christopher Roach dan- i enjoy the discussion of making OUR HOMETOWN A BETTER PLACE. but i must correct you- first Karl rove lost because his original strategy was to appease the TEA PARTY( extreme conservatives)- and tried to buy the election( citizens united/ etc)- and he lost. so he has learned, and is adapting, EXPENSIVE MISTAKE 500-MIL, to 1 BILLION, OR SO.. im suprised he isnt sleeping with the fishes. and the 47% videio tape was the nail in the coffin.. you said" Where some taxes raised? Yes. But most of the turn around was because of cut backs and making the system run more efficient. Besides, even if all of the turn around was because of raising taxes, nobody including you can undo the fact that when she left that position the county government was working off of a huge surplus in the millions of dollars." - so she raised taxes to solve a deficit; and used a balanced approach of tax hikes, and govt spending cuts.. and over taxed us- to get a budget surplus. so she sounds a lot like PRESIDENT OBAMA, OR BILL CLINTON - yet you insist shes a conservative? ???? .. im not slaming Ms Hughes. I have no emotion for nor aginst her. personaly- i think shes kinda hot, has a pleasnt demeanor, and knows local govt finance. its the social issues i cant stomach, and i still insist that was her downfall. ........YOUR QUOTE- " all the bs about Anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-choice and then you trying to link it to the KKK without the white sheets is just simply disgusting."- show me where the KKK, and the TTT has any daylight between their platforms/ agendas. add in the code words " welfare/takers; and self deportation, AND THE GAP NARROWS.. IM NOT IMPLYNG ANY DIRECT RACISM, BUT THINK ABOUT IT........ QUOTE: I sat there to make calls for her right next to me sat a gay man who like you had a serious axe to grind with Mayor Henry and worked his butt off trying to turn this city around.- tommy schrader? fred steinicke? just curious.. ............YOU- "Is she pro-life? Of course she is."- no one is for abortion, but women want the choice/options, without some bunch of crazies telling them what to do, through intimidation, etc.. - and th estated goal of the local RTl to prevent ANYBODY WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH THEM from getting elected, even dog catcher- is abhorrent.. and im sure theres lots of irritations, and such that can be put up by local govt- such as the doctor admitting priv ordinance, which is being sused in othe r statesto shut down clinics. dittor for zoning, planning, building codes elsewhere too. The church being the moral compass is fine, but self appointed vigilante busybodies is nothing but equal to fred phelps, and as abhorrent... YOU- CHARITY CASINOS- my issue is their record of racketeering- cherrymasters, and im not sure state laws allows them to operate 52 weeks a yr, 3 days a week. and esp the aAMERICAL LEGION-dubious record as well- how much of their proceeds go to charity as a percentage; and how much goes to profit the operators, for their own greed? they are bending, if not breaking the laws, and crime is crime.. ...... im not opposed to legal gambling, but illegal is illegal. i cant smoke weed- its the same thing.. MY AXE TO GRIND- s the rotten treatment ive gotten by the local hacks, and they must pay. and besides- if they did what i tell them to do, they might start winning- all im saying is copycat shine, a sure thing?.. YOU- conservatives and the KKK- im not saying centrist mainstream conservatives are KKK- dont be hyperbolic, DAN- im saying these special interest groups ARE veiled racist; bigots, whatever. they assuredly arent christian. where in the new testament in the red words of JC- does it support anything they say or do? Nor am i saying anything negative about you, DAN. as for personal issues- its not personal- its politics. the henrys have never doen anything to me i have seen personally ( not to say...)- and I think the people deserve to see how and who their politicians, and elected officials are behind closed doors- thats why the 47% ROMNEY TAPE WAS SO DEVASTING. the guy who taped it, apparently did it with innocent intent, but then realized he had dynamite in a can, and that it was important to let the American people see how he truly was. thats not negative politics.. thats being intellectually honest. mudslinging is an art, and a science- if you are telling the truth, and its great tabloid news, ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW. look at the SALACIOUS INTEREST IN BILL CLINTONS affairs.. and the cover-ups of other "respected" politicians. They all spout the same partisan rhetoric.. and as for MS Hughes- and my vote- i voted against the TTT party agenda- social agenda- because i personally find it abhorrent, and against the cnstitution, and th eintent of the founding fathers.. again- it was more that, but also- like i said- i thought things were going ok, and why let the inmates take over the asylum- so to say( a little humor here). and as for TAXES- well- TAXES are a price to pay for living in a civilized society- and personally- i dont mind paying taxes, as long as things arent getting neglected. If you, and TOM, and company- can maybe publish blog- and lay it all out in writing for the world to see- and 1- be financially factual; and 2- document the character, etc- of why we ( dont want a scoundrel, or a crook ) in office- RICHARD NIXON COMES TO MIND- or the tabloid facts, then people can read the story, and examine it more closely. but to just say- the sky is falling- we are broke, theres no money, etc- people dont listen. If I was on your side- I would go to 1- all your precinct people; 2- all the neighborhoods 3- business, and Labor people- and make up a questionaire- or survey- market research/ customer service- and use facts, figures numbers, and s oon- to find out what people want, and how much they are willing to pay for it.. the best example i ever saw of this was several years ago- John Stafford- spent considerable time and effort( really earned a bonus)- compiling a service by service compilation of the city budget- showing what each service cost, what it provided, and the city resources that went into it, and the various consequences of eliminating it. as far as im concerned- it would make a brilliant graduate degree course in local govt finance. Pat roller is doing that somewhat.. again- If STEVE SHINE wants to achieve his goal of "global domination" here in the county- well- ANNEXXATION has several advntages- 1- it spreads the shared city ameity/convenicne budget over the greatst number of people( spreading the pain around).. 2- it brings more citizens into representation about their taxation- and able to vote in city affairs- which they pay for through COIT, CEDIT, etc.. a3- annexation spreads the per-capita tax burden arounda wider tax pool- so overall- its less per capta; and inally- say we annexxed ( for the sake of discussion- 50,000 people in unincorporated, developed suburban areas- - the dupont/ county bars, etc- would be subjcet to city codes, and the playing field would be leveld for business. the map would make the city look larger, and the population increase- through annexxation- granted- would make fort wayne/ allen county eleigible for a larger slice of the pot of the money from the FEDS, and INDY- that will be apropriated, and spent anyway- and instead of lets say 250,000 population, wwe could claim on paper 300,000( i have to look up the real numbers_ fort wayne will get more money, and be ranked higher as larger cities- not inconsequential, and has adavantages.. oh- and the HOLY GRAIL OF THE GOP- whomever institutes a unigov / consolidated got structure county wide, in imitation of your KING- RICHARD LUGAR- will be crowned the next king- HELMKE TRIED AND FAILED. the GOP controlled city council cando this. in fact- i would raise taxes to the maximum level- abnd rebuild the surplus, and save the legacy fund- which is turinig into a real tar baby. ever see the movie "the mouse that oared"? the legacy fund is getting to be a millstone- and both sides are greedily circling to spend it on their own special interests, famlies, friends, and croonies. again- why am i hlping you r side- my side can do just fine without me- they said as mcuh.. like right.. ok- look at all those winning officesWINNING1 DUH1 as charlie said. and the city elections arent till 2015- so there slots of time to play; but seriously- i want to be aplayer, and make fort waye a great place for single adults to party, families to work and play, and safe for kids- which arent at all incompatible.. butthe more we all are talking about this, and the sooner TOMMY forms a exploratory com ittee-the sooner things will happen. we already saw it in the cuncil meeting- 3-12- with the harper sniing at didier. all tom has to do is just be himself. an afableniceguy, willing to sail the mellow middle - right centrist, and make sure he doesnt mourdock himself on account of the lunatic fringe. You seem reasonable, Daneil, and i think we can work together on these issues- bi partisan support. I will tone down the tea party bashing- , but i dont beleive social conservatism is inclusive, nor the way to go.. i yied the floor( and great reading your dissertation, too!).
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      • David Christopher Roach dan- i enjoy the discussion of making OUR HOMETOWN A BETTER PLACE. but i must correct you- first Karl rove lost because his original strategy was to appease the TEA PARTY( extreme conservatives)- and tried to buy the election( citizens united/ etc)- and he lost. so he has learned, and is adapting, EXPENSIVE MISTAKE 500-MIL, to 1 BILLION, OR SO.. im suprised he isnt sleeping with the fishes. and the 47% videio tape was the nail in the coffin.. you said" Where some taxes raised? Yes. But most of the turn around was because of cut backs and making the system run more efficient. Besides, even if all of the turn around was because of raising taxes, nobody including you can undo the fact that when she left that position the county government was working off of a huge surplus in the millions of dollars." - so she raised taxes to solve a deficit; and used a balanced approach of tax hikes, and govt spending cuts.. and over taxed us- to get a budget surplus. so she sounds a lot like PRESIDENT OBAMA, OR BILL CLINTON - yet you insist shes a conservative? ???? .. im not slaming Ms Hughes. I have no emotion for nor aginst her. personaly- i think shes kinda hot, has a pleasnt demeanor, and knows local govt finance. its the social issues i cant stomach, and i still insist that was her downfall. ........YOUR QUOTE- " all the bs about Anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-choice and then you trying to link it to the KKK without the white sheets is just simply disgusting."- show me where the KKK, and the TTT has any daylight between their platforms/ agendas. add in the code words " welfare/takers; and self deportation, AND THE GAP NARROWS.. IM NOT IMPLYNG ANY DIRECT RACISM, BUT THINK ABOUT IT........ QUOTE: I sat there to make calls for her right next to me sat a gay man who like you had a serious axe to grind with Mayor Henry and worked his butt off trying to turn this city around.- tommy schrader? fred steinicke? just curious.. ............YOU- "Is she pro-life? Of course she is."- no one is for abortion, but women want the choice/options, without some bunch of crazies telling them what to do, through intimidation, etc.. - and th estated goal of the local RTl to prevent ANYBODY WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH THEM from getting elected, even dog catcher- is abhorrent.. and im sure theres lots of irritations, and such that can be put up by local govt- such as the doctor admitting priv ordinance, which is being sused in othe r statesto shut down clinics. dittor for zoning, planning, building codes elsewhere too. The church being the moral compass is fine, but self appointed vigilante busybodies is nothing but equal to fred phelps, and as abhorrent... YOU- CHARITY CASINOS- my issue is their record of racketeering- cherrymasters, and im not sure state laws allows them to operate 52 weeks a yr, 3 days a week. and esp the aAMERICAL LEGION-dubious record as well- how much of their proceeds go to charity as a percentage; and how much goes to profit the operators, for their own greed? they are bending, if not breaking the laws, and crime is crime.. ...... im not opposed to legal gambling, but illegal is illegal. i cant smoke weed- its the same thing.. MY AXE TO GRIND- s the rotten treatment ive gotten by the local hacks, and they must pay. and besides- if they did what i tell them to do, they might start winning- all im saying is copycat shine, a sure thing?.. YOU- conservatives and the KKK- im not saying centrist mainstream conservatives are KKK- dont be hyperbolic, DAN- im saying these special interest groups ARE veiled racist; bigots, whatever. they assuredly arent christian. where in the new testament in the red words of JC- does it support anything they say or do? Nor am i saying anything negative about you, DAN. as for personal issues- its not personal- its politics. the henrys have never doen anything to me i have seen personally ( not to say...)- and I think the people deserve to see how and who their politicians, and elected officials are behind closed doors- thats why the 47% ROMNEY TAPE WAS SO DEVASTING. the guy who taped it, apparently did it with innocent intent, but then realized he had dynamite in a can, and that it was important to let the American people see how he truly was. thats not negative politics.. thats being intellectually honest. mudslinging is an art, and a science- if you are telling the truth, and its great tabloid news, ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW. look at the SALACIOUS INTEREST IN BILL CLINTONS affairs.. and the cover-ups of other "respected" politicians. They all spout the same partisan rhetoric.. and as for MS Hughes- and my vote- i voted against the TTT party agenda- social agenda- because i personally find it abhorrent, and against the cnstitution, and th eintent of the founding fathers.. again- it was more that, but also- like i said- i thought things were going ok, and why let the inmates take over the asylum- so to say( a little humor here). and as for TAXES- well- TAXES are a price to pay for living in a civilized society- and personally- i dont mind paying taxes, as long as things arent getting neglected. If you, and TOM, and company- can maybe publish blog- and lay it all out in writing for the world to see- and 1- be financially factual; and 2- document the character, etc- of why we ( dont want a scoundrel, or a crook ) in office- RICHARD NIXON COMES TO MIND- or the tabloid facts, then people can read the story, and examine it more closely. but to just say- the sky is falling- we are broke, theres no money, etc- people dont listen. If I was on your side- I would go to 1- all your precinct people; 2- all the neighborhoods 3- business, and Labor people- and make up a questionaire- or survey- market research/ customer service- and use facts, figures numbers, and s oon- to find out what people want, and how much they are willing to pay for it.. the best example i ever saw of this was several years ago- John Stafford- spent considerable time and effort( really earned a bonus)- compiling a service by service compilation of the city budget- showing what each service cost, what it provided, and the city resources that went into it, and the various consequences of eliminating it. as far as im concerned- it would make a brilliant graduate degree course in local govt finance. Pat roller is doing that somewhat.. again- If STEVE SHINE wants to achieve his goal of "global domination" here in the county- well- ANNEXXATION has several advntages- 1- it spreads the shared city ameity/convenicne budget over the greatst number of people( spreading the pain around).. 2- it brings more citizens into representation about their taxation- and able to vote in city affairs- which they pay for through COIT, CEDIT, etc.. a3- annexation spreads the per-capita tax burden arounda wider tax pool- so overall- its less per capta; and inally- say we annexxed ( for the sake of discussion- 50,000 people in unincorporated, developed suburban areas- - the dupont/ county bars, etc- would be subjcet to city codes, and the playing field would be leveld for business. the map would make the city look larger, and the population increase- through annexxation- granted- would make fort wayne/ allen county eleigible for a larger slice of the pot of the money from the FEDS, and INDY- that will be apropriated, and spent anyway- and instead of lets say 250,000 population, wwe could claim on paper 300,000( i have to look up the real numbers_ fort wayne will get more money, and be ranked higher as larger cities- not inconsequential, and has adavantages.. oh- and the HOLY GRAIL OF THE GOP- whomever institutes a unigov / consolidated got structure county wide, in imitation of your KING- RICHARD LUGAR- will be crowned the next king- HELMKE TRIED AND FAILED. the GOP controlled city council cando this. in fact- i would raise taxes to the maximum level- abnd rebuild the surplus, and save the legacy fund- which is turinig into a real tar baby. ever see the movie "the mouse that oared"? the legacy fund is getting to be a millstone- and both sides are greedily circling to spend it on their own special interests, famlies, friends, and croonies. again- why am i hlping you r side- my side can do just fine without me- they said as mcuh.. like right.. ok- look at all those winning officesWINNING1 DUH1 as charlie said. and the city elections arent till 2015- so there slots of time to play; but seriously- i want to be aplayer, and make fort waye a great place for single adults to party, families to work and play, and safe for kids- which arent at all incompatible.. butthe more we all are talking about this, and the sooner TOMMY forms a exploratory com ittee-the sooner things will happen. we already saw it in the cuncil meeting- 3-12- with the harper sniing at didier. all tom has to do is just be himself. an afableniceguy, willing to sail the mellow middle - right centrist, and make sure he doesnt mourdock himself on account of the lunatic fringe. You seem reasonable, Daneil, and i think we can work together on these issues- bi partisan support. I will tone down the tea party bashing- , but i dont beleive social conservatism is inclusive, nor the way to go.. i yied the floor( and great reading your dissertation, too!).
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      the rest of the conversation: to date:
      • RE: Mayor Henry's tax package- did i call it or what? now its up to the GOP to propose sensible spending cuts that a consensus of citizens/neighborhoods can agree on- the proverbial "balanced approach" . also- the internal audit, and interested citizens can suggest where there is monely being "wasted"( in the eyes of the beholder) - i would suggest the polics stop going after the "small fish"- and focus on bigger criminals.. I may disagree with rove, and shine, but they know what they are talking about..
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        • Daniel J. Quintero David. When I worked with the Paula Hughes campaign for months we made will over 150,000 calls trying to avoid all of this. Towards the end right before election many citizens made it beyond clear they had heard enough. So we voted. And we got what we...See More
        • David Christopher Roach the trouble with Paula huhges was she drank the koo-aid, of the tea party , then dove righ in to the shallow end of the conservative extreme tea party gene pool. same thing that rove is saying , and shine, as well. the lunatic fringe of neigther party will win. personally- the Mayor nor his wife have ever had anything nice to say about me, and i would have voted for Paula- if not for her extreme right turn , so henry was the "boobie prize"- and henry fired Beth malloy, the only other reason i voted for tommy boy. I hate tea party cnservatives like the mossad hates nazi's - yes that much.
        • David Christopher Roach Dan- by the way- hope your doing well..
        • Daniel J. Quintero David. She drank nothing. Her conservative views were will established long before the tea party came along. It was this conservativeness that guided her when she completely turned around a county government. Before you and I take on a huge fight about...See More
        • David Christopher Roach Dan- #1- Paula Hughes and her "gang of 3)- team election- was smart. the local democrats are fractured, and have no unity. herding cats comes to mind, among others. Steve shines leadership, and "political war machine"- works flawlessly- because the Chi...See More
        • David Christopher Roach OH- as for Chris Christie-, and the CPAC "diss- He helped Obama get re-elected, by being bi-partisan, and doing what was right for the people of New Jersey, and by showing that working with people, and finding common ground- is a good thing. lke im trying to do with yu, tom, my neighbor up the street, and who i share a precinct with- Ms Hughes. I have my own axe to grind with the local Democrat party central committee hacks( not the res t of them, mostly)- and i want to see the GOP city council ANNEX the Democrat party into their graves- which this will do. forcee the local democrat party hacks to reform, or well- the ash bin of history. nothing steve shine would love more. ANNEX ANNEX ANNEX!!! oh- steve shines other goal- is to be "liked" in the inner city ; and has made it clear his views on extremist divisive factions within the party. as i mentoned earlier.. ok bye for now.., Dan, Tom, etc..
        • Daniel J. Quintero David. I read about half of what you said and I simply stop reading. Why? Because you couldn't be more wrong on so many levels. What Paula Hughes did at the country level was cleanup a broken system that was overrun with waste and duplication. Where some taxes raised? Yes. But most of the turn around was because of cut backs and making the system run more efficient. Besides, even if all of the turn around was because of raising taxes, nobody including you can undo the fact that when she left that position the county government was working off of a huge surplus in the millions of dollars. You tell me when that is going to happen in this city government? You tell me why we elected someone who only echoes the same words our president does which is....invest....invest....invest...which means spend spend... spend.....spend. So we can stop trying to slam Paula and what she did at the country level for it would be a complete waste of time. And all the bs about Anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-choice and then you trying to link it to the KKK without the white sheets is just simply disgusting. It simply shows you have no clue about what was really going on. First of all, 80% of the people who worked with her were women. And out of the those 150,000 calls we made we found out that mayor Henry had only a slight lead when it came to women. And what's really ironic is everyday I sat there to make calls for her right next to me sat a gay man who like you had a serious axe to grind with Mayor Henry and worked his butt off trying to turn this city around. He knew from his heart that Paula isn't out to get women or gays. All that bs is nothing but political rhetoric that unfortunately was swallowed down by just enough people. Is she pro-life? Of course she is. But she made clear over and over again any changes locally to the laws regarding this matter was going to take a lot work by a lot people to make any such thing happen. There isn't a magic wand that can be waved by a person like Paula that would change anything in the short run when it comes to this issue. Again, as I said before, you and so many people threw the baby out with the bath water on this. And for me personally, I'd love to see a casino come to this area. I spend a great deal of time going to the charity casinos you seem to loathe so much. However, we live in a very very conservative town like it out not. I have been in the housing industry for nearly 30 years in this community. And oh my Lord how I love the people of this community but man is it ever hard for them to make a decision on anything that is major in nature. Look at Headwaters Park. That conversation was started in the early 1900's. Then for many years it was put on the back burner. And even when it came back to life in the early 80's it still took about 30 years to get it done. Should we blame that on the KKK too? I mean come on. Even you understand the difference between a community that by its very nature is very very conservative and a group like the KKK. A casino will be here someday but give it another 15-20 years. Sorry, we're just slow. And your slam about the charity casinos. Let me say this. Has there been a problem with these organizations? Yes. But I sincerely believe most or all of that is in the pass. The 2 that I go to on a consistent basis have very specific state laws they must follow and from what I can see they are doing just that. One of them post on their website all the time all the different organizations they donate to. It's the main reason I go there. When I don't win and get some of the money back myself I know a good percentage of the money is indeed helping our community. David, I don't know you very well at all. I appreciate your willingness to share your thoughts. But if I can only make one suggestion. Try not to be so negative. It's obvious you are upset with the mayor and I don't blame you but I do find it a bit ironic seeing how he got your vote. But to slam the other side in the way you have is what is wrong with this country. I fought hard with so many other people to see the day he lost his position solely because I knew Paula was clearly a better choice. Not because I hate the man or I have axe to grind with him or that I think he's doing all these terrible things behind the scenes. I've heard so many things that are negative about the man that were very personal attacks on him and I can tell you it went in one ear and out the other. Neither myself, or Paula or anyone on her team were interesting in that crap. Perhaps if she would have spent more time in the mud dishing up real dirt on him it would have been different. But who wants to win like that and live in that world? We were accused of mud slinging as it was and all we did was talk about the facts about policy issues. Some people in this town just couldn't except the truth. And now we all are living it as we all face income tax increases in our near future. Sad.....just sad.
        • David Christopher Roach dan- i enjoy the discussion of making OUR HOMETOWN A BETTER PLACE. but i must correct you- first Karl rove lost because his original strategy was to appease the TEA PARTY( extreme conservatives)- and tried to buy the election( citizens united/ etc)- and he lost. so he has learned, and is adapting, EXPENSIVE MISTAKE 500-MIL, to 1 BILLION, OR SO.. im suprised he isnt sleeping with the fishes. and the 47% videio tape was the nail in the coffin.. you said" Where some taxes raised? Yes. But most of the turn around was because of cut backs and making the system run more efficient. Besides, even if all of the turn around was because of raising taxes, nobody including you can undo the fact that when she left that position the county government was working off of a huge surplus in the millions of dollars." - so she raised taxes to solve a deficit; and used a balanced approach of tax hikes, and govt spending cuts.. and over taxed us- to get a budget surplus. so she sounds a lot like PRESIDENT OBAMA, OR BILL CLINTON - yet you insist shes a conservative? ???? .. im not slaming Ms Hughes. I have no emotion for nor aginst her. personaly- i think shes kinda hot, has a pleasnt demeanor, and knows local govt finance. its the social issues i cant stomach, and i still insist that was her downfall. ........YOUR QUOTE- " all the bs about Anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-choice and then you trying to link it to the KKK without the white sheets is just simply disgusting."- show me where the KKK, and the TTT has any daylight between their platforms/ agendas. add in the code words " welfare/takers; and self deportation, AND THE GAP NARROWS.. IM NOT IMPLYNG ANY DIRECT RACISM, BUT THINK ABOUT IT........ QUOTE: I sat there to make calls for her right next to me sat a gay man who like you had a serious axe to grind with Mayor Henry and worked his butt off trying to turn this city around.- tommy schrader? fred steinicke? just curious.. ............YOU- "Is she pro-life? Of course she is."- no one is for abortion, but women want the choice/options, without some bunch of crazies telling them what to do, through intimidation, etc.. - and th estated goal of the local RTl to prevent ANYBODY WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH THEM from getting elected, even dog catcher- is abhorrent.. and im sure theres lots of irritations, and such that can be put up by local govt- such as the doctor admitting priv ordinance, which is being sused in othe r statesto shut down clinics. dittor for zoning, planning, building codes elsewhere too. The church being the moral compass is fine, but self appointed vigilante busybodies is nothing but equal to fred phelps, and as abhorrent... YOU- CHARITY CASINOS- my issue is their record of racketeering- cherrymasters, and im not sure state laws allows them to operate 52 weeks a yr, 3 days a week. and esp the aAMERICAL LEGION-dubious record as well- how much of their proceeds go to charity as a percentage; and how much goes to profit the operators, for their own greed? they are bending, if not breaking the laws, and crime is crime.. ...... im not opposed to legal gambling, but illegal is illegal. i cant smoke weed- its the same thing.. MY AXE TO GRIND- s the rotten treatment ive gotten by the local hacks, and they must pay. and besides- if they did what i tell them to do, they might start winning- all im saying is copycat shine, a sure thing?.. YOU- conservatives and the KKK- im not saying centrist mainstream conservatives are KKK- dont be hyperbolic, DAN- im saying these special interest groups ARE veiled racist; bigots, whatever. they assuredly arent christian. where in the new testament in the red words of JC- does it support anything they say or do? Nor am i saying anything negative about you, DAN. as for personal issues- its not personal- its politics. the henrys have never doen anything to me i have seen personally ( not to say...)- and I think the people deserve to see how and who their politicians, and elected officials are behind closed doors- thats why the 47% ROMNEY TAPE WAS SO DEVASTING. the guy who taped it, apparently did it with innocent intent, but then realized he had dynamite in a can, and that it was important to let the American people see how he truly was. thats not negative politics.. thats being intellectually honest. mudslinging is an art, and a science- if you are telling the truth, and its great tabloid news, ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW. look at the SALACIOUS INTEREST IN BILL CLINTONS affairs.. and the cover-ups of other "respected" politicians. They all spout the same partisan rhetoric.. and as for MS Hughes- and my vote- i voted against the TTT party agenda- social agenda- because i personally find it abhorrent, and against the cnstitution, and th eintent of the founding fathers.. again- it was more that, but also- like i said- i thought things were going ok, and why let the inmates take over the asylum- so to say( a little humor here). and as for TAXES- well- TAXES are a price to pay for living in a civilized society- and personally- i dont mind paying taxes, as long as things arent getting neglected. If you, and TOM, and company- can maybe publish blog- and lay it all out in writing for the world to see- and 1- be financially factual; and 2- document the character, etc- of why we ( dont want a scoundrel, or a crook ) in office- RICHARD NIXON COMES TO MIND- or the tabloid facts, then people can read the story, and examine it more closely. but to just say- the sky is falling- we are broke, theres no money, etc- people dont listen. If I was on your side- I would go to 1- all your precinct people; 2- all the neighborhoods 3- business, and Labor people- and make up a questionaire- or survey- market research/ customer service- and use facts, figures numbers, and s oon- to find out what people want, and how much they are willing to pay for it.. the best example i ever saw of this was several years ago- John Stafford- spent considerable time and effort( really earned a bonus)- compiling a service by service compilation of the city budget- showing what each service cost, what it provided, and the city resources that went into it, and the various consequences of eliminating it. as far as im concerned- it would make a brilliant graduate degree course in local govt finance. Pat roller is doing that somewhat.. again- If STEVE SHINE wants to achieve his goal of "global domination" here in the county- well- ANNEXXATION has several advntages- 1- it spreads the shared city ameity/convenicne budget over the greatst number of people( spreading the pain around).. 2- it brings more citizens into representation about their taxation- and able to vote in city affairs- which they pay for through COIT, CEDIT, etc.. a3- annexation spreads the per-capita tax burden arounda wider tax pool- so overall- its less per capta; and inally- say we annexxed ( for the sake of discussion- 50,000 people in unincorporated, developed suburban areas- - the dupont/ county bars, etc- would be subjcet to city codes, and the playing field would be leveld for business. the map would make the city look larger, and the population increase- through annexxation- granted- would make fort wayne/ allen county eleigible for a larger slice of the pot of the money from the FEDS, and INDY- that will be apropriated, and spent anyway- and instead of lets say 250,000 population, wwe could claim on paper 300,000( i have to look up the real numbers_ fort wayne will get more money, and be ranked higher as larger cities- not inconsequential, and has adavantages.. oh- and the HOLY GRAIL OF THE GOP- whomever institutes a unigov / consolidated got structure county wide, in imitation of your KING- RICHARD LUGAR- will be crowned the next king- HELMKE TRIED AND FAILED. the GOP controlled city council cando this. in fact- i would raise taxes to the maximum level- abnd rebuild the surplus, and save the legacy fund- which is turinig into a real tar baby. ever see the movie "the mouse that oared"? the legacy fund is getting to be a millstone- and both sides are greedily circling to spend it on their own special interests, famlies, friends, and croonies. again- why am i hlping you r side- my side can do just fine without me- they said as mcuh.. like right.. ok- look at all those winning officesWINNING1 DUH1 as charlie said. and the city elections arent till 2015- so there slots of time to play; but seriously- i want to be aplayer, and make fort waye a great place for single adults to party, families to work and play, and safe for kids- which arent at all incompatible.. butthe more we all are talking about this, and the sooner TOMMY forms a exploratory com ittee-the sooner things will happen. we already saw it in the cuncil meeting- 3-12- with the harper sniing at didier. all tom has to do is just be himself. an afableniceguy, willing to sail the mellow middle - right centrist, and make sure he doesnt mourdock himself on account of the lunatic fringe. You seem reasonable, Daneil, and i think we can work together on these issues- bi partisan support. I will tone down the tea party bashing- , but i dont beleive social conservatism is inclusive, nor the way to go.. i yied the floor( and great reading your dissertation, too!).
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          • Daniel J. Quintero Yeah. Chris Christy. To watch him gush about how he got to ride the president's helicopter like he was this 5 year kid jumping up and down right there in front of the cameras was all I needed to see. That bs had nothing to do with the people of New Jersey. All those photo ops amounted to nothing. All the red tape the president promised to cut was again bs. They're buried under a mountain of red tape that is endless. Chris Christy could have got the same job down without walking arm and arm with the president. We all know this. All that crap is just theater and yes it hurt the GOP during the election and yes it has hurt Chris Christy and it should have. Let's keep in mind Chris Christy was the champion of complaining about everything this president has done wrong in his first term. I mean the man stood solely at the top when it come to this. And quite frankly, Chris Christy was right to criticize. This president hasn't been interested in doing anything with the GOP until the last few weeks when the GOP stood firm finally on this last fight the president lost and the poll numbers show that. Ooooohhhhhhh now he want's to take them out to dinner and try to play nice. For 4 1/2 years he's done nothing but blame the GOP for everything and this gift of a storm comes and Chris Christy falls all over himself. Plainly stated, Chris Christy swallowed it hook line and sinker. He's done this to himself. I would have 100% supported what the governor did if we had a working relationship with this president from day one. I'm all for bi-partisan agreements and I fully support efforts on both sides when they work together like that. But this theater was nothing but ambulance chasing at its finest and it was just disgusting to watch. Just ask all the people on the coastline who thought they had flood insurance with the government. Those homes are lost forever and there is nothing all that little sweet hugging did to change any of that. You know it's like this. A man loses all of his credibility if he spends over 4 years complaining about something or someone only to start kissing that hand the second he needs something. You just screw yourself when you do that. Do you think anyone is every going to take Chris Christy seriously again? It's never going to happen. You can't stand on stage for years claiming to know what's going on only to act like a happy little kid the second you get to ride the helicopter of the man you have told us all was such a terrible person. No credibility at all now. Again, 99.9% of all the work all of these men get done is done behind closed doors. For months all I've heard is complaints from these poor people who could care less about all the stupid hugging these 2 men did for the cameras.
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             Dan- re CC; gov of NJ- the American people wanted to see a symbol of the end of hopless gridlck, and impasses, etc; and we wont know the back room behind the scenes deals that were made. all we know- is it made CC look more presidential, and boosted the NJ peoples illusion that help was on the way, and it wouldnt be held up in DC gridlock. in dilpomacy- 2 dsides can dislike each other, snipe at each other, but when its clutch time, or conveneit for one side or another- well- sometimes a cease fire; truce, or treaty can be mutually beneficial. CC must have read SUN TZU- THE ART OF WAR- a handy little gook- that condenses a lot of strategy/ tactics, and diplomacy/politics into a farily short readable understandable little document.. christie seems likeable enough, and in politics- people say what benefits tehm and their own agendas. shine does it, Henry does it, Obama does it- they all do. I do- its market research, and customer service- or "tracking polls/approval ratings- using statistical methds to find what the people want, and giving it to them. its why we elect people. with respect ot city hall- thngs seem kinda amateurish,a dn how much is WIN MOSES -pulling the strings? not that its bad to have outside advice- re:Obama; Clinton: Carter: Hilary, ETC. Its like running a business, in many ways. but yu have to build a brand. a politician can "flip flop"- if its principled, and people can change parties, or shift from conservative to liberal, and back, and hold differing views on various issues; in fact- theres many issues where the far left, and the far right arent far apart. ( none readily comes to mind right now, but they are there.. And I think the people in this modern technology media age- are pretty good at ferreting out the weasels. speaking of- ferreting out the truth, and tabloid salaciousness- I wouldnt doubt that Mitch harper has some strange pecadilloes in HIS SECRET CLOSET OF MYSTERIES.. hes too tightly wound up, like hes hiding something, and on the verge of detonating. Ive tried to set him off, and may yet succeed. hes a bad man, with some serious issues. excessive political scorekeeping, and keeps like a j edgar hoover dossier on everyoe, for future use. granted- any good politician, or operative has their own intellegence files, but harper. well..... somethings not right.. I just cant place it, and the DSM9- isnt quite clear- heck- according to the DSM 9- were all stark raving mad... theresasayig from the far east- the enemy of my friend could be useful as my friend. or the clint eastwood movie- fist ful of dollars- pitting 2 warring factions against each other, for ones own gain. and think about this- the only factor by law of party affiliation, is how you voted in the last 2 primary elections, and in some cases- the last ONE; and if a chairman signs a piece of paper, ones sins are absolved by decree. and the heretical pariah is UN=EXCOMMUNICATED_ and amember in good standing( another vague bi of legalese babblegab gibberish..), by the way... and since theres nothing going on until may 2014, and then may 2015- why not stir the pot, create some chaos, sow some political mischief- if the motives are good? i yield the floor to you.




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      • David Christopher Roach

        Daniel
        I was just reading in the NS online that the city has no money to fix streets. to fix a concrete street- or patch- all they have to do is 1- either pour some new cement in the cracked place, and smooth out. or they can fill it in with goo d asphalt, and when the block needs paved- the whole street can be done.
        of course-everythng in town is politics- concrete work- goes to Marla Irving, GOP; and irving concrete. and asphaly- goes to Andy Brooks/ Brooks paving- Democrat.
        me- i try to seek what fixes the problem, the least expensive, quality way. after all-we pay taxes all these years, and then when we want something done- its like we paid int o the system, we deserve to get something out ou if, and being told theres no money- when there s hundreds of millions of bucks in this city, sitting in various slush funds etc- thats a BS answer.
        so- if I was running for mayor- or Tom and Paula-- team ( i am a team player- if im on a team, i play to win, as much as my time allows.
        I'll help TOM didier- and other individual candidates . not bender, or crawford, pr harper, thats my decision.
        it satisfys my plan. my axe isnt with Henry, personally, except for his and hs wifes illegal cherrymasters while he was councilman- crookedness; and he and his wife condy never having anything nice to say to me; and the Democrat party officials jerking me around- wel- this is how i will exact my retribution.. limited..
        anyway-
        Paula, and LIZ BROWN- i dont know how well they get along- but they love to crunch numbers, and know where the cash is stashed.
        no money? thats a BS lie.
        as for city debt- well- that may be true- the y may be overextended- which also then needs to be laid out clearly.
        then again- all the slush funds- the Legacy fund; the Jefferson point TIF, the cash in the other TIFS, etc- the city needs to just put it all into one big pot- to give leatherman, etc- such control over such pots of cash, without any citizen input, and the quasi got being in real estate speculation/development. Private public partnerships- are SOCIALISM- just as much as left wing socialism- we the people shoud not be in the business of private development. the city could LEASE these deals to private business, where WE the people will profit in the form of lower taxes, or such.. but right wing socialism- business welfare/corporate welfare is just as odious as any other welfare. the TEA PARTY must be consistent. Theres something we could agree on- that private business should develop projects- the ewing/fairfield WRIGLEY VILLE, THE HATFIELD RD PROJECT; ETC..
        and if the city govt cant pave streets, then thats incompetence- streets- is one of the prime directives of good govtand a primary function- citizens cant afford to do it, and like i said- the citizens have paid into the system just for that kind of thing.. we arent running a make work jobs program , fof city govt; and besides infrastructure improvements improve property values, and can grow the assessed value of the property tax base..
        so.
        1- find out where the money is- cash laying around- city finances,
        2- find out where the money isnt- debt
        3. find out who else has cash stashed around- slush funds, quasi govt agencies sitting on money pots, etc..
        4- make a spending plan, that we can all agree on..
        and 4- dissolve all these Silos/ commisions, etc- redevelopment, economic development- alliance, etc- that can tax and spend without any peoples or elected officials approval. (tax abatments/ corporate welfare(socialism)- - and tighten the rein s that way..
        thee you go, comrade ( not a negative term- look it up on google..
        and again-
        dont let your candidate be associated with any radical extremist groups. COZY UP TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, be seen with the Bishop, the clergy, Nuns, etc- but stay away from the allen co RTL's; and the other extreme groups- the anti gay; family values, anti casino groups.
        anti gaygroups- just say- personally your opposed, but "all men are created equal, and have equal rights under the laws. we arent a theocracy, we are a pluralistic society, and we dons discriminate.. and besides- who cares what 2 (or more) people do in their own homes, or own private lives- to live how they want in America- thats a fundamental founding father principle..
        as for the Casinos- well- tom said on tv- he and his wife have gone to toledo, and other places- ad dropped a few nickels in th eslot machines, and played a few table games- I personally see no har min that, and its a voluntary tax, which helps pay for govt.
        personaly_ i think that people should have the right again- to live how they want( including growint amd smoking weed in their own homes, on their own properties- as long as itws away from the kids. no minors.
        just dont get carried away. same with god, and religion- for that matter- religious extremism is a bad thing- look at all the problems with radical islam, and how it negatively impacts the rest of their neighbors, and countries. and Iran- the perfect example of why there should never be a Theocracy in the USA. not to mention all the other bad history of religions of denominations..
        so there you go- go get em!
        and have a great weekend, daniel!
        your friend, david
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        • Daniel J. Quintero

          David, I'm friends with the Didier family. I'm pretty close to Joe for I talk to him every week. Tom I talk to about every month either here on Facebook or in person. I've had this conversation with him about running for mayor. According to Tom he can't run because he doesn't have the degree that is required for the position and he doesn't have any plans to get that degree. I love Tom and I would work hard to help him get elected but it just doesn't sound like its in the cards. Oh yeah.....you know what's funny. I've had the same feeling about Harper too. But I can't tell you why. He has always been very nice to me in person so I hate to say anything bad about him. But something isn't right. You have a great weekend too. Dan
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          • David Christopher Roach

            Daniel-
            dude theres no college degree required. look at the sheriff- he has a DIPLOMA! thats all- hes a career cop- just education from outside sources.
            all that being mayor is- a popularity contest, beauty contest. just like HS. I f you are the Party's Nominee, the $$$ and campaign volunteers, etc is guaranteed.
            all a Mayor has to do is smile for the Camera, have public speaking skills( singing for a crowd is the same thing. just read from a teleprompter.
            Henry ford was once asked something along the lines of that he didnt have any college, or expertise in running a large corporation. he replied something like- I dont need to, as long as I have a staff of people who do.
            So all a Mayor has to to is issue proclamations, kiss babies, pat the heads of school children, and schmooze with old folks. jus saleamen people skills, friendly, affable, etc. and Tom d has those skills.
            Other than that- you hire someone like beth Malloy( to use a good example)- to run everything- chief of staff- and just sign all the official paperwork that needs signed. ask the Mayoral Legal advisor- what does this say. then where do i sign it? Pretty simple. anything else you dont know- theres lots of people in FTW that know all kinds of little things, and their own little interests- and they will tell you for advice.
            so If TOM D is having a little crisis- well- i dont know .. we need to encourage him. again- its a popularity contest. so hes a Meat/ food/ reataurant / bar salesman. wel- thats a big business in FTW. theres lots of opportunity to sell meat, anyway- after if he doesnt win. its a slot machine. drop other peoples nickels,pull the handle. you win, or not. doesnt matter. theres been lots of successful politicians who have come from "humble beginnings"- odd ball jobs, little formal education. politics is being a salesman, thats all. its another sales job. making friends. simple.
            Other potential opponents- Eric doden- ( again)- Richy rich- like romney- people cant relate to richy richs- hes alrady in the mix, shall we say with his harrison row, IEDC dealings..
            Mitch Harper- Knowledgable- but isnt relatable. hes a casket salesman, with waxy hands. smarmy, but condescenging- big head ego.
            John Crawford- Universally despised because of the smoking ban. He knows the budget, but too conservative, and cold hearted. to use a doctor term- theres something about his bedside manner.
            ( as a humorous aside- I was at a candidate forum- and he was there. I said hi, shook his hand, like a good politician does, and said something like hi doc, how ya doin? why dont you give me a prostate exam? sort of like kiss my ass, or flip you off. I think he kinda got the message, and its the smoking ban0 kill the bars, wreck the night life, etc.. thing. nothing else. other than his trophu room full of dead animal heads, shot with a shoulder cannon. THAT will stir up things.. A doctor- do no harm- blasting helpless animals for sport, and trophys. what about the meat? what about the hides- did he make coats from them, or other useful Indian/ZULU types things?
            so thats john..
            Paula? too soon. not likely- but would make good staff- numbers cruncher, people skills.
            LizBrown- hard nosed number cruncher- has lots of good ideas for spending cuts..NO ONE has any good ideas to spend money on worthwhile projects.
            no one seems to have the VISION THING as was a (BUSH sr?) campaign issue..
            TOM D has a fairly big, well known family, and lots of customer good will, that would translate to votes easily.
            lots of fun for meat related campaign fun /puns..
            MEAT the Mayor?.. have cook outswith burgers, and brats- campaign fund raisersim sure buying your cook out supplies from your own business would be fair? like you go buy cook out meat from your competitor?
            And i flots of people shop at TOMs business- He could "self fund" some of his campaign- without wrrying about being "all in"- and losing his shirt- like rick hawks, or matt Kelty, for instance..
            and a way for potential campaign supporters to "contribute" by shopping with TOM, and remaining anonymous- all perfectly legal.
            so people who want to donate- but their boss, or just want to be nameless- can play without being in the fray.
            given a choice between any given meat shop- krogers, or jamisons, or daves, or the dude on s calhoun- ???_ and all other things being equal- and prices are all about the same- good republicans, average independents, and Democrats- for whatever reason- why not buy from TOM D? I used to work at a couple bars, and was a cook, and in a few I would be allowed to "shop" with the sales men, so sometines- when TOM would stop by, or i had his business card- Id call him, and buy some meat- for a special fast- bratwurst cook out, steak dinner special, pork ribs, BBQ chicken, you name it.
            He's a good guy i liked doing business with, and i trusted him, and knew its hard to be a sales rep in the bar/ r
            estaurant business.
            theres already lots of people who know TOMMY, and didnt he beat henry in the 3rd, anyway? and some of it was people already knew him, the resients in the district must have had some reason they tossed Henry, and so on.
            so we need to get TOMMY BOY to at least for m a exploratory committee, and have a few parties this spring, and summer.
            personally- i feel better about promoting someone else who i think is good, rather than self promoting. seems dirty(ick) smarmy somehow; but you got to sell yourself, too i suppose..
            on a related note- another way to beat tom henry - is in the primary- ive counted, and the average turnout for the last few primaries is only around 5000 voters. the rest of the democrats all vote in the GOP primary- cross overs- not technically legal- i call it fraud of some kind- but nevertheless- because then in the general election- tha mayors democrat turn out is only 10,000 to 25,00, or so.
            this lAST GENERAL ELCTION WAS A MAXIMUM RECORD OF 51,00 DEMOCRAT VOTERS, AND ABOUT 10,000 DEMOCRAT PRIMARY VOTES - OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
            SO I FIGURE- IF chairman shine CAN MUSTER AROUND 600, OR 7000 MAX voters to vote in the democrat primary- no one checks, or challenges anyway, and adny downs even said- no one can prove anythig, so its technically not illegal, etc- then with 700, or so primary voters, you can vote out henry in the primary, and then ROLL to victory in the fall. now- yyou could all vote for the strongest opposite party candidate- so in case your own shhot himself in the foot, or something( akin/mourcdock, etc)- you still have someone we can all live with.
            or vote for ROACH? ( or schrader, or whomever- one of the scrub perennials the democrats always seem to pull out of their hats)- to stack the deck, and split/fragmanet the anti- henry /incumbent vote.
            And would MAYOR ROACH be so bad/ lol!! whats the worst that could happen..
            SO LAST THING- CHECK TODAYS NEWSPAPER- theres a public notice- of all the slush funds where the city has cash flows- 603 MILLION BUCKS IN??? 5000 SOME MILLION BUCKS OUT? 240 MILLION BUCKS REMAINING CASH BALANCE AS OF 12-31-2012???
            and they tell us theres no money, and there will be even less? in other terms- 603 million is in political speak- JUST OVER ONE LHALF A BILLION - BILLION WITH A B- BILLION DOLLARS!!
            500 million dollars is A HALF A BILLION WITH A B BILLION DOLLARS..
            240 million is also ONE QUARTER OF A BILLION/ BILLION WITH A B BILLION DOLLARS- THATS how much divided up between 240, or 250 000 voters( for found numbers? you do the math- 10,000 bucks? 1000 bcks? whatever- its a lot of money, per person, we all are paying in, and what are we getting out of it?
            and the 2 biggest money pits?
            public safety academy( and deb morrone, democrat TICK/LEECH/PARASITE)- and the 9-11 dispatch center- money pit- bottomless spending pit- because 'PUBLIC SAFETY IS A SACRED COW WE CANT SACRIFICE ON THE ALTAR OF FISCAL DISCIPLINE? as TOMMY would know- SACRED COWS MAKE THE BEST HAMBURGER- another MEAT MARKET JOKE..
            so ther you go- there ssome great STRATEGERY FOR YOU, AND CHAIRMAN SHINE..
            keep SHINE in th eloop, and informed whats going on.
            again- i will suport all other democrats, except the henry's, and his wife the GREEN TOAD..(LOL).. toss steve shine a bone- let him win for mayor. speaking of the vision thing- if HIS GOP TEAM was to win them ayors offie- 5th floor- what WOULD BE STEVE SHINE S "VISION THING? what would a fort wayne under a shine y new administration look like after cleaning up TAMANY HALL? .
            ok. enjoy the weekend. i ha ve some internet porn to peruse, and some illegla intenet gabmling to enjoy( not really, but teehee!!)
            your comrade,
            Roach


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            • Daniel J. Quintero

              David, Just telling you what Tommy said. Perhaps he's got the information wrong. If I remember right Tom Henry got around 7000 votes in the primary and Paula got around 14,000. In the general election I think she got around 23,000 votes.
              • David Christopher Roach

                thats about right, off the top of my head. mr shine would have the precise figures. for sure.. how about a DRAFT TOM DIDIER exploratory committee? have a great wekend, Daniel!
                i got 25,000 in the 2010 general for sheriff. ( i ran on a legalize weed, save tax money/court resources platform.!!!).
                heres another funny story- after the election, --i had made a lot of jokes at paulas expense, and was looking for an opportunity to say i was sorry, and shes a nice lady, and it was all in jest, and politics, and ask for forgiveness. well one day in about jul- i was at kroger with my mom, and paula was there in the produce dept. she was thinner, tan, and looked HOT!!(like i said- i alwasy kind thought that. I said to my mom- know who that is? se said she loks familiar. I said thats paula hughes. she said- oh i remember her from art circ les.. so i said c'mon, lets say hi. so we pushed the cart over, and they said hi to each other, then i told mom, i gotta tellpaula something- and siad i was sorry i poked fun at her- it was allpolitical humor, satire/parody, etc, and please forgive me- i always thought she was a nice layd- just didnt agree. she said well. OK. we were in the produce dept- so i had a funny thoght. i asked her if she had ever seen the movie animal house. she said yes- so i grabbed a cucumber- and pointed at her( dean wormers wife)- and said you recallthis movie scene- and said "mines bigger.. and handed it to her, she dropped it- reflex.. i giggled, she blushed, then grinned, then had to bend over to pick it up. i wished her well, and said- gotta catch up with mom.. looked back- she looked exasperated, but in a good way. it was fun. i was stifling giggles al the way to the bakery section.. havent seen her since, but that was a rell kodak moment- .

                3-19-2013

                nice job at council tonight. a few qiestuins- why does andy downs need to hre some out of town contracter to do this survey? Hes a college professor, for some years now, the "mike downs center at IPFW ( unless the newapaper is writing an article about someone they dont like- then its the mike downs center for politics at indiana -purdue university at fort wayne- sure shuts out a lot of comment?) anyway- you wold think a political science professor could recruit several students, for a pub lic service poll- its surely not political- and it benefits the comunity- and have several political science/ social science students use the phones- to make the calls. heck- I could have concocted a better or equal poll as he did. pay me 25,000 bucks, for 2 weeks, or so of work.. I hope the university, or the city got its monesyworth from the out of state/out of town consulatan. Downs is a waste of space, except for poly sci 101.. in MY opinion..
                Nice job playing traffic cop- little sign of dissent- everyone played nice, mostly. whats up with harpers HARPING on PILOT- payment in lieu of taxes? Even im a little confused about how it works, where the money comes from where it goes, but it obviously flows FROM ABOITE TO the CITY BUDGET.

                ANNEXXATION is going to be the best solution- to spread out the per capita tax burden- everybody beneftis from living in fort wayne, and to pay for all the amenities, such as the parks, the trails, downtown, police, fire, EMs- etc.. and lots of other reasons- go ask John stafford about all the annexxations in the 90's- helmke, richard, aboit, st joe, etc.. same talking points.. and if the city needs the money. well- we the people are good sprot if we can see what we are getting our moneys worth..

                150,000 bucks rubberstamped for the DID? let them collect it / fund raise it from their own people. personally- its tops on my hit list of money pits, with little benefit. and same with all these so celled economic development/ tax abatement s- hundeds f millions- given away- no wonder the tax abase is decmated, and the city govt is broke- we gave away the farm, and now were stuck with the bag.

                oh- and doesnt the city gvt enjoy a million bucks or so from all the gambling casinos around the state? some kind of transfer payment? and does the city govt make any money fro the local so called charity gambling dens arond town? and how much accountability is ther for thaem? how much money goes to help veterans? little, im sure. needs an audit by the IRS, the DOR, the indiana gaming commission, excise, and so on, to keep comloiance- if neighborhood code is so strict, why are others exempt from struct control of the city codes?

                and lastly- I would revise the city smoking ban- keep the somke outside provisions( it also benefits bars- jeeps them nicer)- but it cost them money in sales of smoking accessories, lighters, cigar, cigarettes, etc.. money that returns to the tax base.

                ok- thats all for now. good work Mr council president. no w go sell some brown roasts, lamb chops, etc- for the EASTER FEAST.. ers..



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